{"id":3435,"date":"2026-07-13T21:45:53","date_gmt":"2026-07-13T21:45:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/nationwideinterstatemovers.com\/?p=3435"},"modified":"2026-07-13T21:45:53","modified_gmt":"2026-07-13T21:45:53","slug":"star-nyt-reporter-stuns-podcaster-with-wild-trump-revelation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nationwideinterstatemovers.com\/?p=3435","title":{"rendered":"Star NYT Reporter Stuns Podcaster With Wild Trump Revelation"},"content":{"rendered":"<article>\n<p>The New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman left podcast host Sam Fragoso visibly stunned after sharing an extraordinary behind-the-scenes story about President Donald Trump\u2019s handling of his own tariff policies.<\/p>\n<p>Read more <a href=\"https:\/\/nationwideinterstatemovers.com\/?p=3433\">Trump Unveils Another Tacky National Mall Takeover<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Speaking on Sunday\u2019s episode of the <i>Talk Easy With Sam Fragoso<\/i> podcast, Haberman discussed <i>Regime Change<\/i>, the book she co-authored with fellow Times reporter Jonathan Swan.<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>In the book, Haberman and Swan reveal that Trump was unaware just how high his own Liberation Day tariffs on Chinese imports had climbed, saying he appeared shocked when he finally learned about the figure.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Trump\u2019s \u201cLiberation Day\u201d tariffs, announced in April 2025, imposed a 10 percent tariff on nearly all imports while raising duties on dozens of countries, including China, as part of his push to reshape U.S. trade policy.<\/p>\n<p>The move sent shockwaves through financial markets, triggering a sharp sell-off in stocks and bonds, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average suffering its steepest drop since June 2020.<\/p>\n<p>But amid the market turmoil and growing backlash, Haberman said Trump himself did not realize how high his tariffs on Chinese goods had risen.<\/p>\n<p>She said Trump\u2019s tariffs on Chinese goods had risen to 145 percent before he realized the scale of the increase.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAt one point he couldn\u2019t\u2014he didn\u2019t realize how high China\u2019s tariff burden had gotten,\u201d Haberman said. \u201cIt was up to 145 percent. And his reaction was, you know, like \u2018Holy s&#8212;.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Read more <a href=\"https:\/\/nationwideinterstatemovers.com\/?p=3431\">Rubio\u2019s Warning From Just Three Weeks Ago Comes Back to Bite Him<\/a><\/p>\n<p>A surprised Fragoso asked: \u201cJust to clarify&#8230; he is surprised about his own numbers?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cCorrect,\u201d Haberman replied.<\/p>\n<p>She added that Trump later suggested imposing a 10 percent tariff on China seemingly without any formal calculation. \u201cAt another time he was just talking about China, and he says put them in for 10. So that\u2019s not a formula, that\u2019s a gut feeling.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>According to Haberman, Trump\u2019s approach to tariffs was driven more by instinct than economic planning.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis was something that he had wanted to do for 40 years. And it\u2019s not because he had an economic theory of the case. It\u2019s because he likes the idea of tariffs,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p>Haberman also said senior advisers, including Peter Navarro, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, regularly presented Trump with competing economic data. When he dismissed those figures, she said, he instead turned to aide Natalie Harp to provide numbers that aligned with his thinking.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe real numbers are whatever Trump believes they should be,\u201d Haberman said.<\/p>\n<p>The Daily Beast has contacted the White House for comment.<\/p>\n<p>Trump has sought to discredit Haberman\u2019s reporting and her book.<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>In a lengthy Truth Social post on Saturday. he called her book \u201ca joke\u201d and claimed \u201c90% of it is Fake News,\u201d accusing her of years of \u201cbad reporting\u201d aimed at hurting his political career.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>He also mocked Haberman by repeatedly calling her \u201cMaggot\u201d and claimed that a truly accurate account of his presidency would be \u201cquite boring, but loaded with lots of SUCCESS.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Read more <a href=\"https:\/\/nationwideinterstatemovers.com\/?p=3429\">MAGA Memes Mock McConnell\u2019s \u2018Proof of Life\u2019 Photo Release<\/a><\/p>\n<\/article>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman left podcast host Sam Fragoso visibly stunned after sharing an extraordinary behind-the-scenes story about President Donald Trump\u2019s handling of his own tariff policies. Read more Trump Unveils Another Tacky National Mall Takeover Speaking on Sunday\u2019s episode of the Talk Easy With Sam Fragoso podcast, Haberman discussed Regime Change, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":3434,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3435","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-trumpland"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.7 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Star NYT Reporter Stuns Podcaster With Wild Trump Revelation - Nationwide Inter State Movers<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/nationwideinterstatemovers.com\/?p=3435\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Star NYT Reporter Stuns Podcaster With Wild Trump Revelation - Nationwide Inter State Movers\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"The New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman left podcast host Sam Fragoso visibly stunned after sharing an extraordinary behind-the-scenes story about President Donald Trump\u2019s handling of his own tariff policies. 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